Off Topic Just enough with "I'm not doing it for the views" bullshit

[Deleted member 18559]

Many times, quite often really, I see YouTubers who basically earn views by showing their skin shoot comments like "I'm so sick of guy's objectifying comments, I'm not doing this for the views but because I want to help other girls choose the right bikini for them" etc. and I'm just fed up with it.

I went to a biochemistry school, there was like two or three of us guys and 25 girls in our class. I had been surrounded by girls for four years and had to listen to their stories daily and I realized girls crave attention more than anything. They want to be told they are nice looking, in good shape, have a great hairstyle etc... But let me tell you one more thing I also realized - girls DESPISE each other. Like, if there's a girl in close proximity who looks better than her - she will hate her by default. Of course, it won't be public, she'll pretend she adores her, but in secret she'd think quite the opposite. Same goes for extremely attractive girl - she will take so much pride in the fact that she's better looking than the others and secretly laugh at them.

I had a very good female friend there, we were like pals, and she had her BFF who she had known since kindergarten. It just astonished me, once we got to know each other better, how much she... Well, hated her supposedly best friend. She'd get mad at her because they went out together and guys'd hit at her (her friend) more than herself. She hated her for having a nice boyfriend. She hated her for looking better than her. But, if you saw them together, without knowing them better, you'd think they are the example of a true friendship.

So... Let's get back on the point: when girls upload videos of themselves trying on cheeky bikinis and lacy lingerie and stuff and say how they are "helping my GALS by reviewing clothes for them" - it's not bullshit. Is double horseshit. They are doing it because of, roughly said, two reasons:

1) They want views because sexy stuff sells and views = money. They wouldn't be shaking their bare ass in front of the camera if they wanted to create educational stuff. And no one would be posting objectifying comments if there was nothing to objectify.
2) They want to rub it in the face of other girls how perfect they look while complaining how they look awful. It's just how most girls work, they feed off it.

Sierra McWenie: Almost every comment on here is from random guys talking about your body. Kinda sad I just wanted to say that I love the bikinis, they’re super cute!
Sian Walton: I know it’s annoying I don’t do it for that really. But that’s YouTube and I can’t help it unfortunately!! But I only do it for my gals

Yeah. Right.

 

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So we've crossed into new territory... The sweet little innocent try-on haul girl Christina "I'm just trying on clothes to help girls find stuff that fits properly!" Khalil has graduated to simulating oral sex on OnlyFans.

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One comment I think captures it pretty well:

This is quite simple. As soon as the money isn't enough to pay all the leased cars they have, she steps up. Eventually they'll either have to live more frugal (doubt it, Jaret is literally e-pimping his gf for cash so morals are out the window) or she will continue to step up when the money fountain dries up, which it will, because people get bored of the same content. There's thousands of hot girls on onlyfans, this isn't the patreon days anymore where she was a top 10 try on haul thot.
Step up or dry up.

Nailed it. Times have changed. It started with YouTube demonetization of bikini videos, so she pushes to Patreon. But if people are actually going to step up to the level of actually forking over their own money, you gotta give more than what's on youtube. Then people get tired of that because it's the same shit she's been doing for 3 years. So she gets a little more risque and creates other tiers and tries to get creative with cosplay and whatnot.

When that gets old after a few months and her numbers keep dwindling she hops on to Twitch, as if anyone's going to pay to watch a try-on hauler try to play video games for the first time. When she realized that wasn't going to work, she pushed OnlyFans, and has slowly been getting more and more risque, just to maintain an audience/income.

And now, we've gotten to the point where not only is it getting old for the new OF audience, even her hardcore long-term fans are getting tired of it. In February it'll be 5 years since she started on YouTube. In those early days, ad revenue was probably pretty decent for someone like her. Same with Patreon when she got on there. But like xohegi said, everyone (and their mom) is on OnlyFans now. Too much competition to be so much of a prude. I've been saying it for quite some time... You've been sexualizing yourself for money on the Internet for at least 3 years now; it's time to embrace it and quit pretending that you haven't crossed the line. You're not a fashion model. Not that you ever were, but you're definitely not now.




Another thing that was brought up was how her milquetoast boyfriend fits into the no-nudity equation:

Is it his policy or is she just prude? Could be both I guess

Henrychessman
He's said something like he prefers that she save something that's just for him but that she makes her own decisions.

libertarian
that is such a "woke" answer. he probably mumbled it over some avocado toast....

I actually posted the guy's commentary back when it came up, #157 in her thread. It basically could be summed up as "She's an adult, not an object! She can do whatever she wants. But her nude body is for me only."

Someone else chimed in:

I've never understood the "something just for my husband" bit. As if the vulva and areola somehow are some sacred treasure that only hold value as long as only the one person gets to see them.

No, mother fucker, you're the only one that gets go deep inside her sweet pussy at night. You're the only one that gets to come home to Christina fucking Khalil smiling at you and telling you she loves you. How does depriving the poor bastards here of a few inches of flesh make that any less valuable? Lots of them are like that though. Gotta be a reason. Personally, I wouldn't give a rat's ass if my wife wanted to show her body to people on the internet.

It's a decent point. Personally I find it odd he'd have a problem with people seeing her nipples (which, we've all already seen anyway...Hell, her slips are even on Pornhub at this point), but he's perfectly fine recording a video as he sticks a riding crop between her ass cheeks while she writhes around with her hands cuffed behind her back in leather boots and full goth makeup, and posting that to sell on the largest e-thot site in the world.

Call me crazy, but I think I'd be more comfortable with my girlfriend showing nudity in a Nirvana-style photoshoot than keeping pasties on but simulating sex acts on camera. But whatever, dude. If you think nipples are so sacred, go ahead and put your blowjob-with-a-burqa video on OnlyFans. I know those motorcycle leases don't pay for themselves.

 

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Jumping back in this one cuz Taylor Alesia's recent return made me think about it.



That's not a joke. She literally made that video.

It's basically the same issue we've been talking about in this thread, but instead of selling sexiness and complaining about being sexualized (ahem Daisy Keech), she's apparently just going to pretend it's not sexiness at all. Literally a church worship outfit try-on haul, complete with ass shaking for the camera and an upskirt shot within the first 15 seconds. I actually kind of have to admire the boldness.

Apparently instead of continuing to hop back and forth over the fence, she's decided to try and straddle it? She's flipped back and forth a number of times over the years (of course she's not the only one). There's multiple videos of her saying she's going to quit, or she quits and makes a video when she comes back.

I mean, it's not hard to figure...You catch all the shit that comes with being an e-thot, not only from anonymous strangers, but your parents and family and other people you know. And if they're religious, they're telling you you're hurting the lord and going to hell and whatever other guilt tripping. I imagine that shit will start to weigh on you after a while, so you back away and stop.

But then all that attention and views and likes and social media interaction dopamine hits dry up too, along with any money you were making from it...and that starts to sting as well. You can pray all you want, but God ain't paying the rent on that swanky apartment. So you start up again. It's like a drug habit. Her video at the beginning of the month was yet another "why I walked away" video. She's done that at least two times before.

She's tried the classic "have your cake and eat it too" thing at least a couple times by trying to maintain the attention (and money) by spinning into some other shtick like self-help advice and such...anything she wouldn't be guilted for. But nothing sells like sex, and that's where all her attention came from in the first place.




Her "advice" shtick

I actually posted about this part a while back in her thread, but it disappeared in forum reorg and purgings. whitedogjake posted:

I can see both sides...

Like you said, this girl and others like her won the genetic lottery and I don't blame them for exploiting it and capitalizing on it, just like professional athletes and GQ models. I want to say one in a million but that's not really honest. More like one in a hundred thousand. Perfect face, perfect hair, perfect body, and big round tits that seem to defy gravity. All of this with no plastic surgery. Extremely rare.
And coming up with new content is exhausting because any "fashion and lifestyle" youtuber has done all of the usual videos twice and run out of ideas in a few months.

Now here's where they get no respect from me....

They are spoiled rotten, entitled children who want and expect everything to be handed to them. They have skated through life on their looks alone and are usually dumb as rocks. Most of these girls come from wealthy families and are the children of equally stupid trophy wives. They have done nothing, and accomplished nothing, to deserve the blessings and opportunities that seem to just fall in their lap. As soon as they start making any money, they blow it on creating this grand luxurious facade called "living your best life". And its all bullshit. Its all fake.

They give advise and try to act like they've got it all figured out, but they don't know shit. They have no real life experience and their personal lives are usually a train wreck. And they have "people" for everything. They have social media managers, entertainment managers, personal assistants, website admins and video editors, stylists, photographers, videographers, and the list goes on... And then they complain about how hard they work, stress, anxiety, mental health, and needing to take time off... Give me a fucking break... All you have to do is eat right, work out, take good photos, and not get pregnant... That's it.

Now I understand that things are changing. Youtube is becoming more family and advertiser friendly, and revenue streams are drying up so you have to look elsewhere like patreon. But here's where you're fucking up. You're promising paying customers that you will upload content on a regular schedule and you're not delivering. And if you are expecting people to pay, then you have to give them content that they can't get for free on youtube (unless they are only paying one or two dollars a month).

My response was that it's hard to blame them. They're still pretty young, and it's not their fault that things fall into their lap. As he mentioned, they had nothing to do with it. They were born with the genetics and the wealthy family. So yeah, you're going to have advantages that others don't. That's just reality.

Where I'm definitely with him is the giving advice part. You give people a little attention and they all of a sudden think they're worth listening to or are qualified to advise others. But again, it's not completely their fault because when you have literally hundreds of kids writing to you every single day telling you how great you are and asking you for advice, it's pretty difficult to not start to believe you are pretty special and worthy of offering guidance, particularly if you're basically a kid yourself. Fully matured adults easily get a big head and can even grow to a full-blown messiah complex...imagine how easy it is for a teen/early-20something to be fooled into thinking they know everything. Hell, by the time they're 16, most people already think they know everything anyway. Imagine having (literally) millions of followers hanging on your every word. I dare you to not be affected by it.

As for the not delivering, I don't know if she or these other chicks promise an actual schedule, it's more vague things like "I'll be posting more regularly from now on." And I don't think any quantity was specifically promised to patrons on Patreon. Certainly not on YouTube, where the viewers are paying nothing anyway.

What gets me is the fact that these are the people she's now asking for help from... Her audience is literally girls aged 11–16 who tune in to fawn over her every word because she's pretty, and boys aged 9–99 who tune in to watch her on mute because she's pretty hot. These girls watch her and worship her religiously, and claim it's because she has such a positive message and has helped them through tough times... but in reality she's their "pretty friend" who makes them feel good by association. Guaranteed, you put her exact same words into the body of an ugly girl and almost none of these "tayliens" would be watching, let alone being so fanatical.

And as if it wasn't bad enough that young impressionable children are taking their cues from someone who's literally only a few years older than them, with zero life experience, and offering little more than her looks... Now this chick as asking THEM for advice. As great as technology is, this is one of the drawbacks. It's the blind leading the blind, on steroids.

And it's all simply because she pretty and says she loves them. Seriously...even the girls.

Just listen to how many of them explicitly mention her looks as one of the reasons they like her.
They don't even realize they're doing it, but females objectify females just as much, if not more than males.




It makes them feel good because it's someone saying she loves them, and it's meaningful love because she matters because she's popular because she's pretty.

That's actually another point to leave on... women bitch all the time about being objectified by men, and how men are so superficial. But pay attention in the future to how women compliment other women. No matter what it is...even if they're just talking them up as a good candidate for a job, or introducing them to receive an award...they're going to mention something about the woman's looks.

 

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Exactly what the thread is about. This is from last year, but only just came across it. Khalil and her bf cry "sexism" when she gets demonetized. I actually mentioned the video he's talking about here in the forum back when it was published because it was just too comical. I honestly wish I knew exactly when she started up on Twitch, because I wouldn't be surprised if this guy's recommendation is what gave her the idea to go there.




I remember noticing they changed the title of the video. Didn't realize it was someone calling them out on youtube that made it happen...

 

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My cake

"Asking for it" is of course a real thing, and just like anything else, there are steps a person can take to influence the behavior of others one way or another. Of course this isn't to say people deserve to be attacked, physically or verbally, but at the same time the safety of your body and your ego is your responsibility.

If someone leaves every window and door to their house wide open and goes on vacation to another country, then comes back after a month to discover a few things missing, did they "deserve" to be robbed? Of course the theft is the doing of the criminal and they bear the responsibility. Theft is unethical and immoral. None of the stuff should have been stolen. You should be able to leave your doors open. But that doesn't mean it's a wise thing to do, and that you're not increasing your chances of being robbed if you do.

Same goes for the Instawhores. If you don't want sexual comments directed at you or made about you, it's probably not wise to sexualize yourself for a public audience. And yeah, maybe you're one of the few who aren't doing anything overtly sexual...but you can't get away with pretending like you aren't aware of the kind of attention that skin and form-fitting clothes brings.

And you certainly can't get away with using it to your advantage one day, and then being outraged when it happens without your wanting it to. Or expecting that you get to dictate the kind of attention people pay to you and who those people are. They might as well come right out and admit "Of course I'm wearing this for attention...but I only want it from guys I'm interested in! And they should only make comments I want to hear!"

Not how it works, sweetheart.

It is kind of hilarious. As usual, it's just a case of wanting to have one's cake and eat it too. They want the power that comes from flaunting sexuality, but none of the side effects. They want the self esteem boost, but none of the judgement. They want the complements, but none of the crassness. They want the attention, but none of the objectification. They want to be wanted by all the guys they want, but none of the guys they don't.

Cattiness from bitterness

As for the secret hatred, that's just a result of the fact that a girl's physical attractiveness is the token that determines a large degree of so many aspects of her life...and almost everything in the realm of landing a mate. If a dude has friend who's better looking, it doesn't affect his chances with girls very much. There's a myriad of other ways he can be attractive to them. For girls however, if she's put next to an easily more attractive cohort, she definitely has her work cut out for her. It only makes sense that women would be so viscous and conniving among each other. As mentioned here, they often don't have a whole lot of control over their lives, which is a pretty scary and depressing situation.

And it also makes sense that hardcore feminists tend to be women who are highly unattractive to men (and men who tend to be unattractive to women.) It's not the feminism that drove men away...it was the women's own lack of appeal to men that drove them to feminism. (And same for feminist men. The only difference is the men are there trying to use it as a tactic to get laid.)

But seriously just look at pictures from a rally. Filled with women that men don't want, and scattered among them are milquetoast men that women don't want. Those things are basically just bitterness conventions. Yeah you'll get some actresses and such who will throw out some token platitudes because obvious reasons...but you never see Victoria's Secret models screaming their heads off about the patriarchy and #YesAllMen...because their experience of men is largely quite different. And they actually tend to lead a much more enjoyable life. So the bitterness and resentment isn't there, which is what essentially makes up and fuels those people.

 

[BooBees]

Yup, they know exactly what they're doing. They can upload their cute meal plans and maybe get a couple thousand views, or they can upload a panty try on haul and get 500k~1M+ views. And they absolutely know that most people who watch those hauls are dudes - but because they can point to just one female fan (and that's all they need) they can pretend that they're just trying to to help women find panties that fit ?.

I got into it with Pam Grzeskowiak in her YouTube comments a while back because of this exact thing. She made a video about how she was sick of men objectifying her, watching and leaving comments on her videos, and that she didn't make videos for disgusting men to watch. And to be fair to her and the others, some of those comments do take it too far sometimes, but that comes with it and they have measures to deal with it. But I pointed out to her that she was full of crap and being a hypocrite when she had thumbnails on her videos of her bending over trying to get clicks. Of course she called bullshit and started deleting my comments along with others - she eventually took the video down.

So yeah, it is what it is. There's no point in trying to call them out on it, as I found out, it's a losing battle. There are way more white knights and crazy bitches with low self-esteem that these haulers can hide behind than there are of us. Just sit back and enjoy the content that wasn't made for you ?.

 

[Deleted member 18559]

True. Completely true. Look at the average conservative woman - you'll see a regular woman, fit and healthy, employed, either being in a relationship or married with kids, but then look up for the photo of an average feminist woman - you'll see a creature with a freakish hairstyle, overweight or underweight, looking enraged and screaming on the top of it's lungs how it needs no man.

As you said it, the same goes for guys also, those who have no trouble being accepted by women and society - they don't think much when a girl refuses them, it's just how the world works, you can't appeal to everyone. On the other hand, those guys who have troubles - if a girl refuses them, they want to burn the ground, they scream on the top of their lungs how women are evil creatures.

 

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Story of Christina Khalil and her cuck

Do you think the videos are more so her teasing him? In the way of "Look, I'll show the world... One hand slip and they are out" and punishes him in a mental way rather than a physical one? Makes him watch her edit the videos up in a chair wearing a cage?

No, from what I gather, it happened like this:

She was in L.A. trying to make it as an actress/model when they met. She couldn't land any gigs. They claim it was because she was always "too short" or "too busty", but we all know it's because of that oversized seashell in the middle of her face. And I seriously doubt she can act anyway.



Jaret was into fitness and shit and I think he was already on youtube. It seems like he basically convinced her that it was her ticket to the fame she was after. She started her own channel posting workouts and fitness nonsense, which of course didn't get any views.

Then they put up a vlog with a sexy thumbnail with suggestive wording, and it got over 1m views.



They kept using those kind of thumbnails, but the videos were just vlogs, and the sexy content was literally a matter of seconds in 10 minute videos.

Then she finally got on the "try-on haul" trend and started basically doing bikini model videos. Those would blow up, and they were no doubt making pretty decent youtube ad revenue. All the while, they both were pretending she was just helping girls find the proper sizings for clothes.

The videos in post #32 go into it.

Obviously they both knew what they were doing, and I think he was largely pushing her into it. I think she's a Lebanese prude and he's a horny cuck who also saw dollar signs. He might have even thought it would be a two birds with one stone thing, where the more comfortable she got and the more risque he could convince her to be on camera, the more money they could make AND the more he would be able to get from her in the bedroom.

So she set up a Patreon and was milking that too. Then youtube started cracking down on sexual content and pulled their ad revenue. They whined about it multiple times, but eventually realized it was a losing battle and just doubled down on Patreon. Then when OnlyFans started getting big, of course she hopped on that.



I mentioned in post #31 how she even jumped on Twitch for a while, thinking dudes would actually pay to watch a non-gamer girl be terrible at video games in a low cut top, simply because everyone knows there's some chicks making bank there.

But these two were basically trying any way they could to make a buck off her looks, because they got a taste of how disproportionately easy it is to make a considerable amount of money off of a decent looking chick in the age of social media.

All the meanwhile Jaret's been chugging along with his illegal motorcycle build sweepstakes on Patreon. That was actually another thing she did: They had her create a second Patreon account "ChristinaCustoms" where they actually customized a muscle car and gave that away. I don't think they made much, if any, off of it. If they weren't subsidized on the car or any of the work they did on it, they probably even lost money.

So over time they realized the only real money was in whoring her out in the most direct way, but even that started drying up because it was essentially her trying to charge money for basically the same old boring youtube try-on haul shit. So they slowly but surely started getting more and more raunchy, just to keep that e-thot money flowing.

Again, she's obviously on board with it, partly because she's gotten more comfortable (which, I mean, she's been e-thotting for at least over 3 years now, so one would hope she's come to terms with it at least on a certain comfort level). But also she clearly likes that money too. That fucking 12k sqft mansion on 12 acres of land isn't going to pay for itself.



But I think he was the driving force behind her e-thotting for most of the way. And I think if she's still not sleeping with him, then yeah it's gotta be hard on him, because that's some serious cuck shit. And with how risque she'll get on camera, she's obviously walking around naked in front of him, and probably even messing around to a certain level, all the way up to the part where he gets blue-balled.

I don't think she teases him or uses her content to torture him. I'm sure he's into it for the same reason she is. They share that money. But I wouldn't be surprised if they've had an argument or two where he would be trying to push for action in the bedroom and when she would refuse, he would bring up the content, and she'd throw it back in his face that it was all his idea in the first place. I can easily see that playing out multiple times over the years.

But the funniest part I think is how he once actually tried to frame the whole thing as her defying Hollywood and making it on her own. I think the video is still on one of their youtube channels, but I'm not sure which. There was a point where they were talking about how she couldn't get any acting/modeling gigs, so they decided to do it themselves, and now she's basically succeeded and achieved her dream by creating her own platform for herself.

I honestly don't know how much they actually believe that, and how much they're just trying to convince themselves that by saying it out loud, because it's like, you wanted to be a Hollywood actress or a runway model, and you think you've made it because you're doing softcore erotica on Onlyfans?

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Came across this and found it hilarious.
This is a clip from supposedly a year ago of a Twitch streamer who is now on-board the hot tub trend.

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"Waaaaah. People don't care to watch me just because I'm totally awesome. They actually expect me to entertain them with something."

She literally calls it the "entertainment industry", and in the same breath laments that "it is not real!" No shit, Sherlock. That's why it's called entertainment.


And the off-the-charts level of entitlement has been present for a while. This was supposedly 2 years ago:

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This is not a surprising attitude when one lives life on recruit difficulty. When so much of life comes so easily, it can begin to feel like you are simply owed everything by virtue of existing.

I actually remember a passage from The Game where Neil Strauss talks about getting to a point where his pickup game was so good that getting girls was almost too easy. He says it actually became kind of a boring chore to have to go through the routines and the whole process of basically wooing a girl, because it was all so predictable and it worked so much of the time. He says the feeling became that he should be able to just skip through all that and just say "I'm Style, love me," and that should be enough.

I also recall a similar sentiment from comedians who at times grow tired of their audiences...people laughing at the same jokes night after night. Obviously it's a new crowd each time, so they've likely never heard the jokes before, but the comedian has been hammering out the routine for so long that it's become...routine. He knows it's going to do well, so there's not the novelty of trying out new material and not knowing if it will work, no thrill of having to be on your toes and pivot if things go bad, no fear of bombing. With a well-oiled routine, the audience becomes the comic's puppet, and as fun and addicting as that can be, it can ultimately make the comic end up resenting the audience.

I think the point in all this is, it's important to remember the sentiment emphasized by guys like David Goggins and his ilk... you can't let yourself get too comfortable. It's a good idea to force some discomfort every now and then into areas of your life that may have become too easy, mundane, or routine. It seems important in preventing yourself from becoming not only stagnant and weak, but also toxically lazy and entitled.

 

[Deleted member 18559]

It's true, really, there are always freaks who post stuff like "Oh babe you so hot I suck on your boobs", but that's like one in a fifty. Most "objectifying" comments I see are either time-stamps for interesting moments and the funny conversation that follows ("Thank you, our hero!") or sincere, regular compliments on girl's body and looks. Really nothing to make fuss about, especially if you consider the nature of a video.

On the other hand, do they really want to tell us they are not aware when they are wearing a see-tru? Like, they shot and edited the whole video and failed to see their nipples sticking out? And some guy is "annoying" for mentioning it? Yeah, right.

It's just so much bullshit. I'd like to tell to Miss Sian Walton that I was planning to create her thread here and boost her views, but now, after seeing her crapping in the comments, I won't.

 

[Peter Griffin]

nobody is objectifying them. let me clarify.....nobody is objectifying them in person. it's true that people objectify videos, pictures, etc......but this isn't the same as treating them poorly in person. People will treat others much differently in real life, but a video/picture isn't real. it's a far away depiction of a stranger you'll never know.
For example, when you hear others complain about a woman being objectified in, let's say, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, it isn't true.....the woman isn't being objectified, the photo is literally being objectified....because it IS an object.

 

[junebum]

There are two things women love above anything else attention and validation. If these women were serious in what they were preaching then why not disable the comment section in these try-on videos. Nope they love the attention and validation from men who come on their page comment and feed their egos. I just scroll down and read the comments and laugh at these men commenting.You are a goddess. Any man would be lucky to have you.

 

[Deleted member 18559]

Gwen Gwiz posted a lingerie try-on video yesterday and told us that it's meant to help the other girls shop online and that there are sites like Pornhub, so we are free to leave her page if we are excited.

I like you Gwen, but you are full of crap.

 

[BooBees]

Ah yes, the go to pornhub deflection, never fails lol. Like I said, there's no use in arguing with them - just look at the comments, "...You go girl!". And the funny thing is that even they know she's full of it, but they see her succeeding and they admire and want to be like her so they fall in line - which then gives her more fuel to pretend and act like she isn't doing what everyone knows she's doing.

It's a cycle of stupidity which I'm glad that I don't partake in anymore. I just look from afar and enjoy the view.

 

[SYTAb]

Nice to know there are guys here who recognize the true nature of women. They ALWAYS have a pretense behind what they say, which is why what they DO is all that matters. Their deflections and "shaming" attempts mean nothing to me. Btw, can you imagine how these "don't objectify me, even though I'm flaunting my body"-type women would react if their chosen social media was down for a few days?